You are delusional on so many levels.

AND correct!

Because that's what matters right Tony? That a candidate knows you don't add the 's to a regional convenience store. Much worse than saying "corpse man" or 57 states, I know. How about the point he was making about American innovation? Did that go over your head?

no Mazz and I do not agree with everything about Obama and his administration. I am just pointing out fact vs fiction. Romney is liberal = fact. Facts back that up. Now he is saying something else, but hasn't proven those statements during his entire life. Now if it were Obama vs Paul or Obama vs Gary Johnson, there would be some libertarians conservative views and records that would be hard to contradict. BUT ROMNEY....hahaha biggest joke ever

Says the guy who likely voted for John Edwards and Al Gore...

And can only make a class envy comment with no real point at all. I'm sure you were just as critical toward the Obama's eating Arugula and hob-nobbing with Clooney and Wintour.

If the best you can come up with is that he mispronounced the name of a regional chain of convenience stores that he'd never heard of... well, Piggly Wiggly to you.

So does everyone on this forum think that a presidential candidate incumbent or otherwise doesn't need to fund raise. I mean lets be real. Romney has more money than the Lehigh Valley (that might be an exaggeration, but it could be true), and that money was made at the expense of the middle class working people he put out of a job. 14 million is a drop in the bucket for what it takes to run a campaign. Sad but true.

You obviously don't even know what a capital company does. If you do, pretend I'm an idiot and explain it to me. Hint: when one is involved with your company, your company is already in bad shape.

Liberals are Losers, we were just discussing how Romney stopped at "Wawaz". Now that you have posted blaytant non-sense, we can get back to his sub at Wawaz and how he ate that yummy sub from "Wawaz". I agree people need to wake up, before we know it Joseph Smith and his buds from planet Kolob will be here to save the planet, and if you don't believe ( and sinned in the past) then you will NOT be saved. True story

AHH...so we move to the Great Mormon Hope who's so damned patriotic and loves his country so very much that he takes all his cash and invests it in bank accounts in the Cayman Islands, Switzerland, and the rest. How'd he make all that money? By creating jobs----in Singapore! You're such an idiot.

Well, or Romney should campaign in "Amercia" like his campaign stated. Well the only factual information we have to go off of is that Obama is governing like Reagan, (just as fact, that Reagan's own budget director states) and Romney governed Massachusetts like the big liberal he is. His record proves it. I know its bad that all the voters got duped into voting for ROmney rather than a true conservative like Paul. But now you are stuck with ROmney, a big schm^ck.

Tony.. if they made stupidity a felony, you wouldn't be able to vote in Nov. Oh Gawd... that would be nice...

Liberals are Losers, in November this country will be worse off if that Romney idiot even comes close to being elected. I'm not saying Obama is the best, I'm not even democrat, but he is a lot better than mr. etch a sketch living it up at Wawaz in Amercia!

A shining example of well-reasoned, intelligent political discourse.

I cant make this stuff up. It is fact and true. Zombie and Obama? You must mean Romney and Zombies by baptizing the dead. For instance, Romney believes in baptizes the dead (zombies) such people as Anne Frank. His father in law was baptized after his death because he was a "non believer". What kooky stuff is that all about??? Who in their right mind would believe that??? ohhhhh Romney does, and he says he will govern with his religous beliefs in mind. Maybe Romney is some how creating this bath salt stuff in order to gather zombies and then baptize them so he looks good to Mr. Joseph Smith up at planet Kolob.

http://news.yahoo.com/why-mormons-baptize-dead-people-anne-frank-proxy-214500437.html

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-27/politics/30669682_1_ann-romney-proxy-baptisms-temple-ceremonies

Tony, you conveniently leave out the "by proxy" part in your comments. You do understand they don't dig people up right? As a catholic, I take the "Body and Blood" of Christ at church. Am I a crazy cultist too?

By the way, since your so amped up about Romney saying Wawa's..... You spelled America wrong above. You don't even know how to spell your own country! What a buffoon! Hahaha! How dumb! Hahaha! Stupid, isn't it?.....

@Mazz, no they aren't digging up the dead, but they are baptizing people who do not want anything to do with it. Mitt's father in law, wanted nothing to do with it and before he died he stated not to baptize him. Mitt did it anyway. I guess he cares, because without baptizing his dead father in law, the father in law would have upset Joseph Smith and gone to hell. Also, FYI, I didn't spell America wrong, Romney did. I was making a point. lol.

http://news.yahoo.com/romneys-campaign-misspells-america-app-213732483.html;_ylt=A2KJ3Cb3IOpPvXcADJPQtDMD

I guess when ONLY watching Faux News. you dont get the mishaps of Romney, only the bashing of Obama

We can't compromise because we are WAY TO FAR TO THE LEFT ALREADY. A country full of lazy bums living off an every shrinking group who works...

Democrat: Let's run off that cliff
Republican: No... that's stupid, we'll die. I'm staying right here.
Democrat: OK... let's compromise and walk off the cliff

That's where we are now. We need to pull back from the liberal cesspool this country has become. Bums, bums and more bums. Welfare, food stamps, rent assistance, social security disability, Medicade, AFWDC, WIC, you name it. And the BUMS are creating far more bums for the next generation.... the dumber and the poorer you are, the more kids you have... why not, you get a bonus check with each new brat.

Kinda like coming out for gay marriage the day before you head to Hollywood for a campaign fund-raiser with the entetainment elite at Geaorge Clooney's house.

My, what "bravery" ...

Yes, that is all good and well, but what has he done in his own state to prove that he is the best. Nothing. He passed RomneyCare, was all about single payer system and Obamacare (which is based off Republican ideas 1990's), he was for abortion, now not for abortion, was for taking gun owner's rights away, now not for taking those rights away. Tell us...what do you like so much about him? He has flipped flopped on every instance just to get the nomination and his campagn stated it will etch a sketch that, so what will be left...the biggest liberal ever come November.

Romney was at the bottom of my list as far as GOP candidates go, Paul was first. Right or wrong, I expect the following from Romney:

1) he's not a communist and will remove them from the whitehouse.
2) he improves the business climate with his understanding of industry
3) he approves the pipeline, drilling leases, and improves other strains on energy
4) he doesn't run the country like Massachusetts, because its different and really couldn't if he wanted to.
5) he gives libertarian ideas a chance to be heard. With Obama, there is no way.
6) he chooses better SCOTUS replacements than Obama will.
7) he repeals or grants waivers to all states for Obamacare. See #4

If he does half of this, we will be in a much better place, even it is only buying time against the inevitable. There is no way he will pass liberal agendas with the growing conservative group in congress and will be held accountable by a larger libertarian, economically conservative base. With another four years of Obama, we have no voice at all.

@Mazz…that is the funniest statements. Here are the facts:

1.) No one is a communist here. Romney is not a communist, neither is Obama. That is fact. There are no facts that either of them are.
2.) Romney’s business skills did nothing for his own state. They were near dead last with creating jobs. And his business skills also shipped American jobs overseas and bankrupted companies. Fact
3.) Never proved otherwise. Romney NOW comes out for pipeline but his past governorship shows he was against it and even had his own Solyndra. Facts
4.) Complete opinion. He is NOT running the campaign like he did on his proven track record because he wants to dupe everyone to get a vote. That is obvious.
5.) Giving libertarian ideas. LOLOLOLOL. Are you kidding me??? Paul and Gary Johnson, they are REAL libertarians. Romney is by far the most liberal presidential candidate ever. READ his past records. Must do your research on Romney. Too funny.
6.) Absolutely no facts to back up the SCOTUS replacements. Romney has proven in his past records that is not the case.
7.) Highly doubt that since Romney was 100% FOR national healthcare. Youtube it. It has come out of his own mouth. That is Fact.
So now that I have provided fact for the 7 in your list, what else do you like about Romney?

Tony the Dolt... you are obviously great at parroting the Rachel Maddow line. Romney was near last in job creation in Mass. BECAUSE THEY HAD FULL EMPLOYMENT. YOU DOLT. YOu can't create jobs when EVERYBODY IS EMPLOYED.

here comes Liberals for Losers with no facts and just rants. Here are some FACTS again...LOL. love proving your opinions wrong...Here are the facts under ROmney governorship:

1. Ranked 47th in job growth
(http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/01/opinion/patrick-romney-record/index.html)
(http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/22/david-axelrod/dems-say-when-mitt-romney-was-governor-massachuset/)

2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation
(http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/11/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-massachusetts-unemployment-hit-47/)
3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs
(http://www.politifact.com/new-hampshire/statements/2012/jun/14/barack-obama/obama-attacks-romney-over-40000-lost-manufacturing/)

4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”
(http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/06/obama-romney-massachusetts-economy/1)
5. Piled on more debt than any other state
(http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/18/barack-obama/barack-obama-ad-says-mitt-romney-was-no-1-state-de/)
Sums it up….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlnaYOv0DZY
you also can’t find this material on Fox News because it would contradict their goal of getting Romney elected. Not fair and balanced.

Politifacts, huh? Just another branch of the left wing.... already addressed the job growth number, dolt.

And how about some of Obama's numbers.... 15% unemployment.... more debt in 4 years than virtually all presidents combined.... NO major policy initiatives after Obamacare gets overturned.

Obama know NOTHING about business or the economy. As far as Mitt and Mass.... it's amazing he could get ANYTHING done in that liberal cesspool with 85% liberal democrat state legislators. At least he got something done.

OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING. NOTHING. What are you supporting... four more years of NOTHING except $6 trillion in debt for more give aways?

Hey,.. Tony the Dolt... did you actually READ the whole "debt" link you provided? I think not....
Most of the debt was not of Romneys doing, and MUCH OF IT IS LOCAL DEBT.. like cites and such. This reflects Mass. overspending at local and county levels for years before and after Romney. This is the type of crap you liberals spew. You provice a link, and it REFUTES what you contend. You moron.

Yes, i did read the entire article and was hoping that would be your response, because then with your comeback, you are stating then Obama isn't responsible for his predicessor's debt either and the debt of the states, military, etc. If you are saying Romney wasn't then for sure you would have to agree the same for Obama....or are you be just a hypocrite?

thanks sam...i'm only providing facts and real numbers not made up non-sense

And Obama is full of integrity ? LOL......I love what he did with the Arizon matter recently where he acted day #1 to impede Arirzona's immigration effort by severing their ties with the feds..... You can't make this stuff up ! What will Obama do to get the latino vote while not protecting our borders.

As for lies.....here's an oldie but goodie with almost 2 millon hits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0

We are now spending $2 billion more each DAY than we take in. With no budge, the "priniting press" is going on full throttle. How long can this country go on paying off one credit card with another credit card ? And yet, Obama's plan was to cut $1.4 trillion in spending over 10 years. Well. $1.4 trillion over ten years doesn't even cover the interest expense the government pays. What a joke........

and so what you are saying Steve is that its Obama's fault? the entire thing? come on man...we have 2 non-sense wars started with Bush, that we went in and now fixing up their countries. The house sure has done alot. hmmmm. who is in charge of the house...they passed the budget as well... hmmmm who could that be.... The printing will continue under Romney, which is my point. Everyone duped into Romney when Paul should have got the vote. Now we are stuck with a liberal Romney (past record as fact).

Romney's inspiration....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E

I think it could be argued that presidents do in fact change many things. Washington, Lincoln, FDR, JFK, and certainly this president have made very significant changes by exerting their influence and working with Congress. In the case of the current President he just made significant changes to immigration law, some would argue without regard to Congress.

What significant changes did JFK make? This president? He hasn't gotten anything done, and his immigration change is just deciding to not uphold the law he swore to uphold.... again.... another Patcher who is obvious liberal. Never seen a comment by a Patch person that was not 100% liberal democrat.

Liberals are Losers....what president then made change that you agree with? Bush...he has taken more of our liberties than ANY past or current president. Please continue...

Reagan.... Bush I.... Even Clinton... he followed the lead of a Republican congress.

Ever wonder why the banks are all screwed up...passed by Clinton....but do some research on who did away with the Glass-Steagall act, soley republicans pushing it through with ties to Enron and other scandals. Ohhh those glorious respectful republicans really no how to put on a show as well

Right... Obama with his 15% unemployment, and horrid economy is the man of the people... Union membership at it's lowest ever..... local and state governments going broke.... backlash in places like Wisconsin taking away union rights.... Allowing a million ILLEGALS to get work permits with 15% unemployment..... NOW HERE IS A MAN WHO IS OUT FOR THE LITTLE GUY.

What you stupid liberals never understand is that when rich people are getting richer, THERE IS GENERALLY A THRIVING ECONOMY, AND PEOPLE ARE EMPLOYED. You jealous, dense, dimwits don't seem to understand this.

HOW IS OBAMA GOING TO MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER? By taxing somebody rick and giving you the money? DOLTS.

Hey Jim... how's that Hope and Change workin' for ya ??

I can't answer for Jim but I'll answer for myself. Obama hasn't been a perfect President but he has certainly helped to change what was/is a deeply flawed healthcare system in the U.S. so that's some pretty big change. His immigration reform was another big change. He's passed laws to help women get paid on the same level as men, so I think that's a welcome change. All of this change for the positive gives me hope. So I'd say that "Hope" and "Change" are working very well and we can count on that. Moving "Forward" to the election.

They're not called "Rich people" and "the wealthy" anymore. They're called "job creators." That's the new buzzword that the conservatives are using to help us normies see that they're the ones responsible for all of our good fortune. And, more importantly, it means we can blame these "job creators" for getting rid of employees during a recession. That's clearly Obama's fault of course. [/sarcasm]

Well, realistically, Marc, it IS the wealthy that are job creators. Poor people and middle-class people don't own factories and businesses. Put yourself in the position of one of those factory owners. The government decides to tax you more... are you going to just say, "Ok" and pay more or are you going to find a way to make up for the lost income, finding a way to make your product more cheaply? Be honest. Obviously the rich aren't going to bend over and be taxed more, especially when some of them are being taxed 60%+ of their income already.

The most expensive part of any business is the workforce itself, so you get rid of a couple people here and a couple people there, combining jobs. You make your product more using less money, because you have fewer salaries to pay. Don't forget, most employers invest well over twice a person's salary in benefits.

So in the end, Obama's brilliant plan (and yours) is to ultimately lay people off all over the country.

And "Frightwingslayer" I believe you just made a death threat against a Presidential Candidate. You said, "The good news is that Romney is dead in Pa."

Unemployment was 7.6 when Obama took office-- now it's 8.1. The national debt was lower before Obama took office and put 787 billion dollars into stimulus. Bush bailed out the auto manufacturers-- but Obama approved a special payout to the unions, leaving everyone who had GM stock in their retirement funds in the lurch. Obama gave millions to "green energy" companies that subsequently failed. Obama put a moratorium on Gulf drilling, then when a judge struck down this unconstitutional executive order, he just issued another one. Then he told Brazilian oil companies it was perfectly OK for them to drill in the Gulf and we'd love to buy THEIR oil.

You state that "Mitt runs on fear" as if it were some kind of truism. I'm not a Romney supporter per se, but I oppose the mean-spirited and divisive rhetoric of this President, and reject his attitude that the Constitution is a mere impediment to his personal desires. He criticizes the successful, and coddles the underachieving. He has absolutely no real-world experience in business and assuming he finishes this term as President, it will be the first time he completed a term in public office before jumping to his next "project".

Success in the USA is not driven by government intervention, but the hard work of honest people. Obama thinks the private sector is "doing fine" and that breaking more windows will keep the economy going.

Thanks Ernest for the info, if I may add another:

-He transported his dog (Irish Setter)on the roof of his car for a 12 hour ride, causing the animal undue stress, which resulted in diarhea oozing down the rear window.

How could anybody with a heart, or at least a minium of common sense do this to a family pet?

Mr. Eickhoff, There is a big difference in the judgment of a grown man putting a pet in an abusive situation (note the dog later ran away and they never saw him again) and a child age 9 being served dog meat his step-father, in a very different culture.

Reasons why President Obama is and will continue to be better than Romney? Let's start with the fact that the President clearly knows who he is as a person and has accomplished great things for the American people at an extremely difficult time in our country's history and managed to do those things when an entire political party has sworn to destroy the President and in turn the United States. Also, he is clearly not afraid to stand up to his donors, ie. Wall Street, failing education policy makers, bankers that and credit card businesses.
- First full day in office, President Obama froze White House salaries.
- Just days after taking office, President Obama signed and Executive Order ordering an audit of government contracts, and combating waste and abuse.
- Saved the entire auto industry, and even the economy of the entire Midwest.
-Ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all bailout money.
- Made it so banks could no longer use your money to invest in high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers' interests.
- Supports the concept of allowing stockholders to vote on executive compensation.

The list is very very long.

Do you want someone who sat in a radical's church for 20 years and somehow didn't notice leading our military? That has at least as much bearing-- which frankly, might be little. Because it's a red herring.

Somehow, I feel that you're really not terribly concerned about who leads our military.

Mr Eichoff, I may have brought up the dog situation but you have brought up religion. If you want to a contrast/compare one church/minister Pres. Obama may have followed than it is fair game to discuss some of the historical tenets of Mormonism. I do not want to go there; do you?
Religion aside, Romney is ill suited to be our President. He just is not a good enough person in my mind. His history(flip-flopping and pandering to any audience) and conduct on the campaign trail (Running away from protesters and not stating specifics on issues) is an embarrasment and not worth of the office.