Just the people who sign the petition should leave.

A silly premise- just people sounding off for naught.

Are you crazy? Why on earth would anyone willingly give the White House their names and say they are against the President. Who do you think the IRS will target with all those new agents. Wise up comrade!

It is childish to sign such a thing. The president won the election. I don't suppose they would sign a petition if their candidate lost to a white person and I believe they are racist.

Just more stupid, childish Tea Party antics. 90% of Americans hate them, so give these idiots an island and say see ya. I know it would make me and other real Republicans ecstatic!!!

Thomas Jefferson practically said that states have a duty to secede if the government is corrupt. Whether our government is corrupt or not is up for debate. I would be in favor of all 50 states becoming a confederation similar to what they now have in Switzerland. Each of the Cantons in Switzerland have much more autonomy that the US states do.

Between 1861 and 1865, 750,000 Americans lost their lives over the questions of Union and liberty. Are the sacrifices of these Americans to be ignored over the fact that a black American was re-elected President of the United States of America? For shame on any of those "individuals" who signed the petition to secede from this Republic. Robert Paul Sprague, Paoli, PA

Why do the liberals (subsitute: statists, progressives, marxists, etc.) always insert race into a discussion about dissenting points of view. The issue is Federal government power, size and spending. Helping the TRULY needy should be done as locally as possible so that we can have some oversight. The Federal government should only be defending the country and settling disputes between the states.
Fred Gluck, Bala Cynwyd

One that has 560 signatures says: "Deport Everyone That Signed A Petition To Withdraw Their State From The United States Of America."

This makes no sense at all. Let's say I signed the petition to secede, where would you deport me to? I was born in the US, My mother was born in the US, and so was my father. I am half German, and half Ukranian, where are you sending me? Hopefully not to Gitmo.

* please note this was written using my sarcasm font

Over 600,000 died in the civil war to answer this question. Their answer is "no."

I cannot the believe the Patch is propagating such articles. Makes me question your intents.

I wonder how many signatures I'd get on a petition to have Phoenixville secede from the Phoenixville Area School District?

Divide up the Electorial Votes up to better reflect the will of all the citizens of Pa.

All I want to do is secede my property in Wayne from the Radnor Township School Board and Radnor Township....boy could I save a ton of money, even after I pay for a good security system, a couple of guns, a dumpster for my trash, etc. Just kidding...but would be nice to live in a Township that isn't continually raising school & property taxes through the roof (check the record for the last 10 years).

Hey, that didn't go too well the last time, now did it? Obviously a half-baked idea by the same Poopie heads who voted for Romney. Your Guy Lost, end of story.

Texas did it twice. First from Mexico then from amerika.

If PA secedes I'm moving

Really though, I was hoping that post election we would all try to come together to work on our countries problems, and get away from partisan politics. That was what so many people from all parties said that they wanted. I don't think posting these types of inflammatory polls is helpful at all.

My opinion is all the people signing the petition are un-American, since they do not want to live in America. To secede from a corrupt government is understandable and the right thing to do, but to secede because you are against the President is un-American. In 4 years there will be no incumbent President, lets hope both parties can find quality candidiates and make it a real election. The great thing about being an American is you can have a choice when you vote. Your choice may not win but you accept it, and try harder next time to win.

This all sounds like a bunch of spoiled kids crying - I did not win so I am taking my ball and going home. Well shut up and go home.

I almost lost my lunch visualizing Corbett as President of PA. If I was a R, I would want the Tea Party to secede from the R Party. These clowns are just destroying the R party right before our very eyes. Their incapacity to acknoIedge science and recent bistory, along with their inflexibility makes them absolutey terrible stewards for our country. I say let them all move to Texas, and let Texas secede from the Union.

This concept is not new. After both of GW Bush's elections there was all kinds of talk of secession and leaving the country from all kinds of people. This is the greatest country on earth...and I know I will get comments on that as being an elitist but I believe it to be true. We can all have differing opinions on how our government should be run, come together every 2 years for an election of some sort and then let the people we elected come together to figure out a way to get the people's business done. No one, and I do mean no one is leaving to live somewhere else or leaving the union. Now...for all those states who have produced petitions...petition your elected officials, which includes your president, to start talking to each other to find real solutions! Oh....but California...you can secede and take your debt with you! Only kidding.....maybe....

C'mon... No one is seceding from anywhere. Yes, if you stop to think about it, of course it's a terrible idea. That's why no one's stopping to think about it. The final project isn't a secession. The final product is the petition itself.

It's like when we were nine years old, spending the afternoon designing the World's Most Awesome Flying Car with a friend. Would it work? Is it practical? Of course not. But the point isn't the car; it's the act of designing it.

Same goes for these petitions. No one's seceding from anywhere, but the supporters are having a little fun at a time when they'd otherwise be depressed. And there's far worse ways to channel depression, than starting/signing petitions.

I say all the people that want to leave....don't let the door hit you in the back side!!

The GOP needs a good rectal exam. Haley Barbour.

Stupid question. For those that want to know why the issue of racism is brought up maybe you should read the article that was first published by The Southern Poverty Law Center. Radical right joins in secession frenzy: White nationalists, neo-Nazis and Klan sympathizers are now casting their lot with disgruntled conservatives. Then take a look at Stormfront and read the threads that talk about secession and their reasons for signing the petitions.

Why don't we change the voting laws so as to only allow people who contribute to our society have the right to vote. Then set aside one state to house the the ones who only collect from society.( Better make it a big State ) Then make contributions to help them voluntary. How much longer do I have to pay over one third of my income without a say. Why am I punished because my wife and I are industrious. Keep the taxes coming and I will join the other side be a sponge.

No way in he-- will I sign this! The president is cleaning up so many messes from previous presidents who SCREWED UP THIS COUNTRY! Give the man a chance!

Working for electoral reforms, such as instant-runoff voting or eliminating the electoral college, is one thing. Heck, even arguing to secede for broader political concerns (that in the very least include dissatisfaction with both parties of the American political duopoly) would at least be understandable. But attempting to secede from the union (or even raising the question) because a group of people don't like the results of a single election is so wrong-headed I'm not sure where to begin critiquing it.

LOL The Obama administration added 6 trillion more to the Federal Deficit. That means in 4 years they spent almost 3 million dollars..a minute. They are skewing the unemployment figures, based on 64% of companies responding, the actual rate is 10% not 7.9 Our borrowing has increased and the only country that is going to hold all the cards at the end of the day is our red friend China. If it were feasible, the states should secede, but logically we don't have the military to protect our borders, the capacity to deal with global trade, foreign affairs, and the list goes on. The petition that should be cast is for the Federal Government to balance the budget, as every state in the Union is required to do. You can't get out of a hole by digging deeper.

Before any state secedes, make sure they give back all the federal highways and other federally funded stuff in their respective states..... And of course those folks will need to give up their S.S. and Medicare benefits. Let's see if that changes the number of those petitioning for Independence.

It is just a way to gather a list of nut balls. Lists of groups are useful to politicans at election time. They are supplying Barack with a thoro list to share with his successor.

The We The People website has been up for a long time and I believe that the current administration has responded to 82 different petitions.

I would say that those that are putting up secession petitions are searching for validation. People that have mentally ingested the propaganda of fear, suspicion, hate, and conspiracy theories promoted by conservative media (who by the way is laughing all the way to the bank) are having a hard time dealing with the reality outside of that conservative media bubble. As David Frum said, conservative media has been lying to the American people.

Reading through most of the above comments confirms the notion that "the majority" of voters in america continue to list "ignorance of history" as their number one qualification to vote.
The idea that a petition to vent dissatisfaction or frustration with the status quo is un-american or un-patriotic is in itself the same. That petition is our bill of rights. Our country was formed not by a war of agression or occupation against England, we did not seek to take over London, but by sucession from british rule! Our rule book, or Constitution, which "the majority" still fails to read or comprehend, does not prohibit sucession by the states. In fact it recognizes the biggest fear of our founders, that too strong a federal government, and too lazy a people, will lead to the abject loss of Liberty, decent into democracy, and eventual tyranny of the elite, the exact situation we now find ourselves in. There is an obligation to question authority. The path is now one of re education, or elevating the minds of "the majority" to comprehend that our Constitutional Republic, or rule of law, protects everyone and every idea from mob rule. Posts like "get out, un-patriotic, stupid, don't let the door hit you, and give these idiots an island" are lamentable, at best. At worst they are dangerous, and lead to further loss of Liberty for us all as we stray further, with each election, from what our great country once was. In my opinion, it's a disgrace what we as a nation have become.

We cant , but even as a DEMOCRATE, that is going indy., Yall gots to admit this prez , dont know or worst .And now with all the stuff going on WHO is not telling the truth ,, pick which subject . It is so clear , someone is full of it.

Obama did'nt win the election, he stole it by MAJOR VOTER FRAUD and there's plenty of evidence to prove it. Now that's unAmerican!!!!!

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O Voter Fraud. Was it stolen or did he win? Wish list complete. More Senators check, same sex marriage check, legalize weed check, abortion on demand check, everybody hand getting greased check, check, check.
Things that make you go Uhm...

Came across this web site that is logging the voter fraud reported and investigated by news services.
Click each link and read the articles if you have the time.
http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/2012/11/barack-obama-voter-fraud-2012.html?m=1

O fraud con't

Might want to check this as well.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/maker-of-unskewed-polls-creates-obama-voter-fraud-map-see-which-states-he-thinks-shouldve-been-romneys/

The sad thing is that nothing will be done. George Sorros specifically spent money on Attorney General elections at all levels because that position controls law enforcement and the decision whether an investigation is necessary or just do NOTHING.

Example: Fed AG's scandals Fast & Furious (3 Americans officers killed & 1000's of Mexicans), the investigation of national security data leaked to reporters, CIA director maybe compromised and under FBI investigation but AG claims not telling Pres. etc...

So, Rep know they can't even get an investigation, and if the details were to come out it would probably rip the country apart.

Oh Yesss, uncie flood, that's all you got? Trolling much.

Next time click n read the ARTICLES before commenting.
The FaceBook link was only a way to follow his progress not a list of comments.

No reply button on post - typical Troll

Uncie & David "C"

So typical, can't address the issues so change the subject, then try name calling and disparaging the opponent in public.

Where do you learn this stuff? It's really dark.

God bless

Bill and/or Bill Brantner (Not sure if you are one and the same?),
The original subject of these posts was: "So here's your question: Do you think Pennsylvania should secede from the United States? Tell us in the comments."

Then a respondent mentioned race, next there was the fraud remark? So, who is not addressing the issues? Also, please provide the irrefutable evidence in your statement, "The ONLY reason Obama won was because of MAJOR VOTER FRAUD and there is plenty of irefutable(irrefutable) evidence to prove it. The ARTICLES that you referenced did not provided credible, vetted sources just links to more supposition and opinions, not facts.

As for the name calling, Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones but, Whips and Chains Excite ME!" If I am a troll, great. I am a mythical creature and you are a figment of my imagination or if I was trolling, I caught a really big one? More to follow.

The rest of the details, My remarks, by definition, were not disparaging however, these are:
"Obama did'nt win the election, he stole it by MAJOR VOTER FRAUD and there's plenty of evidence to prove it. Now that's unAmerican!!!!!" and "Robert, The only reason Obama won was because of MAJOR VOTER FRAUD and you and the Democrats know it. There is irefutable evidence to prove it!!!!!!"

I learned this stuff by surviving, as a blue baby, at birth while my father was serving in WW II, contracting polio and loosing playmates to it at age 5, going to a one room K-12 school in rural Mississippi, working as a roughneck in the oil fields of WV, volunteering for the service, safe from the lottery, being stationed in Alaska for 2 years and a Vietnam War Vet-Amphibious Ready Group 11/68-5/69, completed college(CBU BSBA'75 ) while working full time and counseling WW II, Korean and Vietnam veterans about educational opportunities, with aid from the GI Bill and a student loan(paid back before graduation), buried 2 cousins due to drugs, being a Veteran Owned Small Business owner and voting in every eligible election and you?
Dark is when you cannot see the truth in the light or when your "Eyes are Wide Shut”?

I think secession would probably be a good thing for Pennsylvania on purely economic grounds. As a nation State, Pennsylvania would be free from the national debt and unfunded liabilities of the federal government. Pennsylvania has a tremendous wealth of untapped natural gas reserves just starting to be realized, and would essentially be able to tap that wealth as an energy exporter. What would we lose leaving the federal government - the various departments - Agriculture (we can learn what we need to know from the Amish), Education (been dragging us down for decades), Commerce (we can set our own rules), Treasury (I think we could afford our own printing press), Defense ( just my guess but I think we could handle an invasion from New Jersey or Ohio). The U.S. is going down the tubes with its deficit spending and when it hits the cesspool we'll probably be hearing a bit more about the possibility of secession. Most people are still living in their perfect worlds with very limited knowledge about the true state of the nation. The day of reckoning is soon upon us and it will be interesting to see the reaction of the crowd followers when it happens.

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